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Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast we talk to Cloud and Datacenter MVP Tim Warner
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Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast we talk to Cloud and Datacenter MVP Tim Warner
Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast, MVPs Don Jones and Adam Bertram on Pester
<knuit> ## Adam, what sort of pipeline do you use for your deploys? Is it strictly code or handles the entire infrastructure stack?
<Vern_Anderson> don't forget to ## in front of questions
<timhaintz> ## Is Pester scheduled? As in scheduled task or user driven?
<drewjanderson> ## when using it to test infrastructure, could I use it to ensure that the deployment team deployed their IIS web app properly as well as the DB is connecting and such? Or am I just looking at the wrong tool?
<stephenowen> ## could you expand on what mocking is and why I'd wanna do it?
<knuit> ## Don: any big plans for the IT Ops news & talk podcast? I see the first episode launched a few weeks back.
<cjschroeder> ## mocking is similar to simulating?
<stephenowen> hey Vern, try this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZzkD7dxNk
<andrewtchilds> @jason-helmick, are you watching a recording from earlier? live link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZzkD7dxNk
<majst32> Now you need the DSC book too!! https://leanpub.com/the-dsc-book
<knuit> Are pester and InSpec (http://inspec.io/) mutually exclusive?
<migreene> @cjschroeder: RE testing new DC's. https://pshirwin.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/active-directory-operations-test/
<<@YFMP415|ipmo>> ipmo uploaded a file: Pasted image at 2017-01-04, 8:29 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/ipmo/F3N7A0X3Q/pasted_image_at_2017_01_04_08_29_pm.png
<Vern_Anderson> https://github.com/Ticketmaster/poshspec ??
<pscookiemonster> hehe my favorite bit on mocking: https://twitter.com/dave1010/status/613601365529657344?lang=en
<eweilnau> for more on mocking I would recommend reading http://www.growing-object-oriented-software.com/
<<@UNWNE|stephenowen>> stephenowen uploaded a file: Adam EO https://powershell.slack.com/files/stephenowen/F3LS828AV/pasted_image_at_2017_01_04_10_41_pm.png
Welcome to 2017, everyone! To bring in the new year, we are having Don Jones back on the show, and he'll be joined by fellow PowerShell MVP and author Adam Bertram! Don and Adam are collaborating on a new Pester book, so we wanted to have them on to discuss Pester (the PowerShell test-driven-development framework mentioned in ep262 and ep315), the book project, and anything else they have going on.
Please join us tomorrow, Jan 4th @ 9:30 PM EST at our usual place: live.powerscripting.net, or if you follow us on youtube, you'll see our live stream there as well. Also, as always, we'll be hanging out in the #live-podcast room on the PowerShell Slack team, so join us there to interact with us and your fellow listeners!
Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast, Alan Renouf from VMware about PowerCLI
<jonwalz> I like to suggest this https://channel9.msdn.com/Series/GetStartedPowerShell3
<halr9000> live.powerscripting.net http://live.powerscripting.net
<etaylor> humm. sorta? running off the droppages.com http://droppages.com page
<jonwalz> for all of you Google Cloud people listen to this episode https://powershell.org/2016/11/14/episode-317-powerscripting-podcast-chris-smith-on-the-google-cloud-tools-for-powershell/
Long time friend Alan Renouf from VMware will be back with us on Wednesday to bring us up to date with the latest PowerCLI news!
Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast, Chris Smith from Google on Cloud Tools For PowerShell
<<@URTMM|gerane>> gerane uploaded a file: Slack for Android Upload https://powershell.slack.com/files/gerane/F2NN2S2KX/screenshot_20161012-204036.png
<halr9000> jonwalz https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK4451 ?
<halr9000> here we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab46gHXNm8Q
<halr9000> jonwalz did you update live.powerscripting.net http://live.powerscripting.net?
<chrsmith> cloud.google.com/powershell http://cloud.google.com/powershell
<pscookiemonster> ## Any plans to release these in a package on the PowerShell Gallery? (https://www.powershellgallery.com/items?q=google&x=0&y=0)
<<@UPLLB|halr9000>> halr9000 uploaded a file: Untitled https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F2NNGJ0TH/-.pl
<halr9000> approved verbs: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms714428(v=vs.85).aspx
<chrsmith> Issue on GitHub https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/google-cloud-powershell/issues/318
<halr9000> contributing: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/google-cloud-powershell/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
Tonight we podcast! Be sure and join us as we chat with Chris Smith from Google. Chris is a Staff Software Engineer at Google and he works on .NET tooling for the Google Cloud Platform. As you might have heard, Cloud Tools for PowerShell is now in beta.
Join us TONIGHT at 6:30 PM PDT / 9:30 PM EDT at live.powerscripting.net!
Tonight on the PowerScripting Podcast, Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on open source PowerShell
<jaykul> ## What about ARM?
<jcotton> is ## for questions?
<gavin> ## @halr9000 did you find a goat to come on the show as a special guest?
<jcotton> ## jsnover needs more edge in his life
<jaykul> ## PowerShell is dating bikers.
<sqlvariant> ##Jeffrey, where were y'all hiding Ken Van Hyning all these years?
<itadder> ##jeffrey where did you get inspired to bulid powershell?
<halr9000> ok, if you have qÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s, then as sqlvariant has shown, please add ## to the front!
<jaykul> ## Is that all?
<jaykul> ## ARM support?
<jaykul> ## SSHRM
<jcotton> ## remember OneGet and the legal team? :stuck_out_tongue:
<jcotton> juneb: prefix questions w/ ##
<juneb> ## Please tell us more about the governance model.
<itadder> ## how did legal allow MIT license?
<pscookiemonster> ## Were there lessons learned working with legal/folks unfamiliar with OSS? I know Chef offers a webinar for legal folks, it seems like it would be helpful for large orgs like Microsoft to help sell and teach this
<juneb> ## Will the roles of team members change?
<jaykul> ## How can I get paid to work on open source powershell? 😛
<jaykul> ## I second Rich's question: what's with the release timing?
<juneb> ## When will core help be open-sourced?
<jaykul> ## wait, is that why CIM?
<kilasuit> ## Can we get an explaination on the Powershell RFC Process for changes ##
<jcotton> ## since we're now taking comments, is the team aware that some nuget packages (like Microsoft.Management.Infrastrucutre) are missing XML doc files?
<ngetchell> ## For bugs should we still use uservoice, connect, or github issues now?
<FoxDeploy-Stephe> ### We noticed version 6 on PowerShell for Linux, when can we expect ver 6 on Winders ###
<beefarino> ### is there any PowerShell features that don't work in PS Core?
<powerschill> ## For Linux services would you expect to use Get-Services or a new cmdlet like Get-LinuxServices?
<sqlvariant> ##This is why we need Out-DataTable to be in PowerShell core!! :slightly_smiling_face:
<texmandie> ## when might we see remoting to Azure/Office 365 tenants from Mac/Linux?
<itadder> ## will powershell run hurd
<FoxDeploy-Stephe> ###I need mah winforms in Linux, can we get System.Windows.Forms ports to linux plz
<jcotton> ## my thing about XML doc files
<jaykul> ## yeah but what about rasbian
<gavin> ## Raspbian!
<bitzbyte> ## Yes, it was around Raspbian/linux
<gavin> ## NEED ARM!
<jcotton> ## need xml doc files in all the nuget pkgs
<richprescott> ## Sooooo, how do I get PowerShell on my Chromebook?
<juneb> ## Do we use UserVoice or GitHub issues?
<beefarino> ## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
<bladefirelight> ### will script block loging work with syslog?
<sqlvariant> ## Well SQL Server is on Linux so they have a business case :champagne:
<jim> ## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms? or will module authors be required to manage that on their own?
<richprescott> ## what is next for Snover and team? e.g. Drawbridge, rewriting kernel, on-premise DSC mgmt system
<beefarino> ## e.g., right now I have to manually load 32 or 64 bit native dlls in my modules; will I need to manually load linux vs windows as well?
<dougfinke> ## any thoughts on deeper PS integration with Python etc, beyond strings?
<itadder> ## will get a restapi for AD, and will we get Join domains cmdlets for powershell on mac
<dagryph> ## OOH. DSC using powershell on linux, instead of the separate DSC package???
<JasonMilczek> ##Have there been any advancements in DSC on Linux?
<kilasuit> ## DSC will we see a revamp of the DSC for linux to kill off python ##
<JasonMilczek> ##Are you aware of any other vendors writing psmodules for Linux right now?
<richprescott> ##Snover, was PSDirect one of the drivers for PSnix? Being able to manage Win/Nix on Nano server Hyper-V with one language
<JasonMilczek> ##or MAC?
<itadder> ## will we see modules to manage bind9 or dhcpd or other services or MYSQL?
<JasonMilczek> ##Forgive me if this was already answered, but can we now powershell remote to Linux?
<itadder> ## do we require !#/usr/local/bash
<organicit> ## will there ever be a means to #! powershell in a script
<itadder> ## what about text enconding
<dougfinke> ## what can we expect in the next 6, 12 months
<jim> ## Yes, upcoming roadmap??
<itadder> ## what about an update to the conhost terminal in windows ? Will it support more then 256 colour?
<richprescott> ## ONE MORE! What's next for Snover and team?
<sqlvariant> ##Ask about Ken Van Hyning (SQL Tools team) where were they hiding him?!?!
<Vern_Anderson> ## What question is he up to? One thing on an island?
<Vern_Anderson> ## Oh you guys don't ask the last question any more?
<FoxDeploy-Stephe> ###Whats next, will they take DIR away from us?
<richprescott> ## As of PS5+, does Write-Host write to stream or no?
<FoxDeploy-Stephe> ###Found it
<jasonmorgan> ## Is the redirect operator modified in linux or does it behave as per normal?
<bitzbyte> ## Wouldn't this be the role of .NET Standard??
<<@UNJM7|jonwalz>> jonwalz uploaded a file: Pasted image at 2016-08-18, 8:51 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/jonwalz/F22RNF6UQ/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_51_pm.png and commented: Anyone else seeing PowerShell as the top trending topic on Facebook?
<juneb> Governance model: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md
<beefarino> btw PowerShell going open source is trending on facebook 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windows-Powershell/109314949087498?source=whfrt&position=2&trqid=6320345599904818250
<<@UPLLB|halr9000>> halr9000 uploaded a file: Untitled https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F22S025RC/-.pl
<FoxDeploy-Stephe> @whatevergeek https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/getstarted
<pscookiemonster> I liked this thread in hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314653 - nice demonstration of why, even if you *can* use text, you might prefer objects
<ebekker> Linus actually is cool with systemd: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question
<kilasuit> regarding Aliases there is an open issue here at https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929
<jcotton> here's the PR @jsnover mentioned https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901
<kilasuit> I've suggested this as a resolution https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929#issuecomment-239697927
<powershellnerd> ARM!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/HJN39I1q6EBKE/giphy.gif
<r_keith_hill> @itadder the hard part is that other than ASP.NET http://ASP.NET Core there is no presentation stack for .NET Core. VSCode gets a pass because it uses Electron / Chromium / Html / JS
<ebekker> And you can actually write Electron using C#: https://github.com/kexplo/electron-edge
<dougfinke> possible alternate to ogv, don't know if works on the new stuff yet https://github.com/dfinke/PowerShellSlackathon/tree/master/ExportDataTable
<kilasuit> also https://github.com/Pash-Project/Pash/issues/429
<ebekker> Is .ps a TLD? RedHat should get RedHatLoves.ps http://RedHatLoves.ps
<ebekker> First book should be written in the open on https://www.gitbook.com/
<itadder> dereksonthejob http://prnt.sc/c7jmuo
<ebekker> Explor .NET API Catalog: http://apisof.net/catalog/System
<<@URXAA|dereksonthejob>> dereksonthejob uploaded a file: Screen Shot 2016-08-18 at 10.41.10 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SKJQLR/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: here we go
<<@URXAA|dereksonthejob>> dereksonthejob uploaded a file: @r_keith_hill https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SRLC02/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: I have it now, thx to @itadder
<sqlvariant> Oh, here's a video we did last month if people need to catch up to speed on what's going on with SQL PowerShell in 2016: https://youtu.be/rc6lwiTE9GI
<<@UNNCY|r_keith_hill>> r_keith_hill uploaded a file: RE line endings: https://powershell.slack.com/files/r_keith_hill/F22SHCYDB/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_54_pm.png and commented: Just a LF but concerns me the default encoding is unicode for out-file still
No more teasing, we can now announce that tonight's guest on the PowerScripting Podcast is none other than the inventor of Windows PowerShell: Jeffrey Snover! The topic: PowerShell has been open sourced and is available NOW on Linux and Mac OSX!
Want to jump in right away? Here's the code: github.com/powershell/powershell!
We are pleased to...well, "announce" isn't the right word. Tease! That's the one! We are excited to share with you, dear viewers and listeners, that Jonathan and Hal will be joined by a "Very Special Guest" this Thursday, Aug 18th @ 9:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM PDT at our usual place: live.powerscripting.net.
Here's the rub:
But we can say that this will be a pretty big deal! Look for this post to be updated tomorrow with more details, if at all possible.