Unable to post / reply when using Internet Explorer 11

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  • #40362
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    Since the implementation of the new site design, I am unable to post and reply when using Internet Explorer 11.
    The text boxes are simply not showing.

    Anyone else seeing this?

    Internet Explorer:
    Version 11.306.10586.0
    Update Versions 11.0.31 (KB3154070)

    Windows:
    Windows 10 Enterprise 1511 10586 318

  • #40366
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    It actually seems related to Arie H's topic WordPress rendering for mobile

  • #40369
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    For reference, this is what I see when looking at this thread in IE 11:

  • #40371
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    Don Jones
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    Interesting. I've no idea whatsoever why it would do that. Let me spin up a VM and see what I can figure out. Meantime, please do make sure you're not running any blockers or filters that might be causing it.

  • #40378
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    Don Jones
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    Confirming that Edge works for me. Wow, they _really_ want you to use Edge, too. Still trying to find IE11.

  • #40383
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    Don Jones
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    If you look at the page source, you should be able to search for:

    [div class="bbp-reply-form" id="new-reply-40362"][form name="new-post" id="new-post" action="https://powershell.org/forums/topic/unable-to-post-reply-when-using-internet-explorer-11/" method="post"]

    (I've replaced angle brackets with square brackets so they'll render here). Can you confirm that you're seeing this in the page source? It's the reply form. I realize IE11 isn't rendering it, but want to make sure you're seeing the same source HTML that I am.

  • #40385
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    Nope ... from the looks of it, that is not in the source.
    I just checked from another computer as well (same versions), and the problem shows there as well.

  • #40387
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    Don Jones
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    Guys, I've no clue. I'm seeing the reply form in the raw HTML, and IE11's inspector isn't showing any CSS style that's preventing it from displaying. In fact, the inspector is showing the reply form area as having a visible size on the page, but it clearly isn't rendering. I've lodged a support request with the theme developer to see if they have any advice. Meantime, all I can suggest is using another browser.

  • #40391
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    Don Jones
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    That's super-odd. Because I'm definitely seeing it in the source on IE 11. Can you triple-check? Maybe enable Developer Tools (F12) and use the Inspector?

  • #40394
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    Will do ... thanks Don

  • #40396
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    Just checked again, and you are right ... it does show in the source.
    Sorry about that.

  • #40400
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    Don Jones
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    Just experimented turning off our caching and optimization plugins, and it had no effect. I'm chalking this up to an IE quirk or bug; we'll see what our theme developer has to offer in way of advice. Sorry guys... hopefully Chrome or Edge is a viable workaround until it's resolved.

  • #40404
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    No worries ... hope a solution can be found, but will use alternative browsers until then 🙂

  • #40414
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    Arie H
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    well IE 11 isn't working but there's a workaround.

    Add powershell.org to the list of URLs in the Compatible view Settings and Voila, you have the missing section up.

    Its how I'm writing this comment.

    I dont use IE 11 on win 10 as I prefer Edge which is why I initially didn't notice this happening on IE 11 as well

    Now to try and work this on my phone.

    by the way note that the site looks a bit messy with compatible view on but at least you can post 😉

  • #40419
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    Don Jones
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    Arie, any idea exactly what "Compatible" does differently? That might clue me in to what's actually wrong.

  • #40440
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    Arie H
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    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd567845(v=vs.85).aspx

    first section

    Introducing the Compatibility View List
    ——————————————————-

    Web authors use doctype directives to specify whether their webpages should be displayed in standards mode or a compatibility mode called "quirks mode." Internet Explorer 9 provides a new standards mode that supports industry standards more completely than the standards modes of earlier versions. By default, Internet Explorer 9 uses IE9 mode to display standards mode webpages. For pages built to support the features of earlier versions of the browser, this can affect what the user sees when the page is displayed. For example, pages that displayed properly in IE7 Standards mode may appear differently when displayed in IE9 mode.

    Understanding Compatibility View
    ————————————————–
    When a standards-based webpage is displayed in Compatibility View, the following changes occur:

    •Pages are displayed in a mode determined to be appropriate for the site, generally IE7 mode.
    •In the user-agent string, the browser identifies itself according to the document mode used to display the site. For example, if the site is displayed in IE7 mode, then the user-agent string contains MSIE 7.0 instead of MSIE 9.0.
    •Conditional comments and version vectors recognize the browser as a browser corresponding to the selected document mode. For example, if the site is displayed in IE7 mode, the version vector will be reported as Internet Explorer 7, rather than IE9 mode.

    These changes help ensure that users can still use websites that do not fully support the current versions of established and emerging standards.

    I remember reading somewhere that for Edge to avoid issues, the User-Agent it presents to website is actually FireFox so any conditional code that checked for IE will not happen and the real web site would be shown, instead of a special costumed alternate site that "regular" IE get. Might not be fully accurate information or has been changed since but I have no doubt that's one of the reasons why its not showing on a normal IE without the

  • #40450
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    Arie H
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    its chrome and safari actually as its not using the old Trident HTML engine

    This is the User-Agent that Edge passes

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/46.0.2486.0 Safari/537.36 Edge/13.10586

    naturally any IE-detecting mechanisms will not see it as "another IE"

    Using Developer Tools on IE 11 and on Edge, the full HTML is equal in both so everything is getting to the browser, its simply not rendered and I cant see anything wrong in the html or the visible parts of CSS

  • #40458
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    Arie H
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    You mentioning the site being Responsive and the comment in the last link about the viewpoint being 320px wide because of it, having difficult issues with long titles, reminded me of another issue on the phone version IE that ill just mention. not expecting a solution as its quite obvious not going to change the lacking IE version.

    The blue headers across the top of the site, with Welcome or the name of the forums, when viewed on the phone browser, doesn't scale its font size, so you get almost a full screen covered with the blue bar and the characters of the name, broken into parts.

    I suspect another problem with how mobile IE renders. As IE11 is ok in that field.

  • #42636
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    Don Jones
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    I've made a change to the theme style suggested by its developer; can someone from this thread check IE11 and let me know if it's made a difference?

  • #42699
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    Arie H
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    Works on my phone 😎

    and IE 11 !!! 🙂

    now just to find the time for the preview post button 😉

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by Profile photo of Arie H Arie H.
    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by Profile photo of Arie H Arie H.
  • #44462
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    Christian Sandfeld
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    Works for me as well – thanks for fixing this.

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